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StatefulSet restarter always restarts replica 0 immediately after initial rollout #111

Description

@siegfriedweber

Current behaviour

New restarter-enabled StatefulSet have their replica 0 restarted after the initial rollout is complete.

Expected Behaviour

The initial rollout should be completed "normally" with no extra restarts.

Why does this happen?

There is a race condition between Kubernetes' StatefulSet controller creating the first replica Pod and commons' StatefulSet restart controller adding the restart trigger labels. If the restarter loses the race then the first replica is created without the metadata, triggering a restart once it is added.

What can we do about it?

Add a mutating webhook (see the spike) that adds the relevant metadata. The webhook must not replace the existing controller, since webhook delivery is not reliable.

However, webhook delivery requires a bunch of extra infrastructure that we do not currently have, namely:

  1. We must implement the K8s webhook HTTPS API (https://kubernetes.io/docs/reference/access-authn-authz/extensible-admission-controllers/)
  2. We must generate a TLS certificate and write that into the MWC

Tasks

Definition of done

  • Webhook certificate is managed (provisioned and renewed) by the commons operator
  • The Webhook should apply the same podTemplate annotations as the controller currently does
    • Initial STS rollout does not cause a restart (STS.metadata.generation should stay 1)
  • Controller must still apply metadata if the webhook is disabled and/or fails (at the cost of still doing the extra restart in this case)
  • The webhook must fail open (failurePolicy: Ignore)
  • A Kuttl test should verify the above (maybe minus the failurePolicy)
Original ticket The StatefulSet of a Superset cluster is immediately restarted after its creation. This should not be necessary and should be prevented.
$ kubectl describe statefulset simple-superset-node-default
...
Events:
  Type    Reason            Age                    From                    Message
  ----    ------            ----                   ----                    -------
  Normal  SuccessfulDelete  3m31s                  statefulset-controller  delete Pod simple-superset-node-default-0 in StatefulSet simple-superset-node-default successful
  Normal  SuccessfulCreate  2m59s (x2 over 3m31s)  statefulset-controller  create Pod simple-superset-node-default-0 in StatefulSet simple-superset-node-default successful

After the restart, the Superset pods are annotated as follows:

annotations:
  configmap.restarter.stackable.tech/simple-superset-node-default: cf60300e-0c45-4ee2-b60c-de53b0084182/21998
  secret.restarter.stackable.tech/simple-superset-credentials: e0e4b781-46f9-44f4-80c8-a0876b91ed8b/16909

This could be an indication that the restart controller of the commons-operator is involved.

The commons-operator is busy while the StatefulSet is restarted:

2022-09-16T10:02:50.228971Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="pod.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=Pod.v1./simple-superset-node-default-0.default
2022-09-16T10:02:50.236144Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="pod.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=Pod.v1./simple-superset-node-default-0.default
2022-09-16T10:02:50.239371Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="statefulset.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=StatefulSet.v1.apps/simple-superset-node-default.default
2022-09-16T10:02:50.255219Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="statefulset.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=StatefulSet.v1.apps/simple-superset-node-default.default
2022-09-16T10:02:50.258511Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="pod.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=Pod.v1./simple-superset-node-default-0.default
2022-09-16T10:02:50.266146Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="pod.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=Pod.v1./simple-superset-node-default-0.default
2022-09-16T10:02:50.274647Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="statefulset.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=StatefulSet.v1.apps/simple-superset-node-default.default
2022-09-16T10:02:51.433621Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="pod.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=Pod.v1./simple-superset-node-default-0.default
2022-09-16T10:02:51.449009Z  INFO stackable_operator::logging::controller: Reconciled object controller.name="statefulset.restarter.commons.stackable.tech" object=StatefulSet.v1.apps/simple-superset-node-default.default

Activity

  1. siegfriedweber commented on Oct 20, 2022

    @siegfriedweber
    MemberAuthor

    Actually this is how the restart controller is supposed to work. The Superset operator creates a stateful set labeled with restarter.stackable.tech/enabled=true. The restart controller of the commons operator watches this labeled stateful set and adds the UIDs and resource versions of the referenced config maps and secrets as annotations to the pod template. This triggers a restart of the stateful set right after its first creation. The commons operator watches these config maps and secrets and updates the annotations whenever these resources change which in turn triggers a restart. This ensures that Superset always runs with the latest configuration.

    Even if the immediate restart is confusing, I do not see an elegant solution to prevent this, so I propose to close this issue.

  2. fhennig commented on Oct 24, 2022

    @fhennig
    Contributor

    If the outcome is "this is how it is supposed to work", then it might not be a bug, be we should still go back to the drawing board and look at what we've built, because this immediate restart is really something that shouldn't happen.

    Maybe the title of the issue and also it's place in this repo is not correct anymore.

    After talking to sigi, I'm moving it back to "Refinement: In Progress"

  3. vsupalov commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @vsupalov
    Contributor

    Taking a step back. Outcomes from the refinement discussion:

    Observed Situation

    • A clean system is easier to monitor, debug, and operate
    • Random restarts are surprising in a bad way
      • Logs are not mentioning reason for this behaviour - just the restart is visible
    • We want our systems to be understandable, and observable (know why restart happens)
    • The restart controller causes a restart, which might be avoided
    • Two operators working on the same resource interact in sometimes hard to understand fashion (badly designed system?)

    Investigation Worthy Threads

    • Can we avoid this kind of initial restart? Are they strictly necessary?
      • Mutating admission controller / webhook (?) link
      • Port restarting logic into the operator-rs framework (it is a library!)? Reusable functions.
    • Can we add logs to understand what's going on
      • Add logging outputs to justify / announce restarts
    • Root cause analysis: how was the decision made that we want to have this kind of pattern?
      • Possible "design guideline" which could have been helpful: "only one operator is modifying a single resource"

    Possible Next Steps

    • Create spike investigating if restart is necessary?
    • Address "how was restarting decision" in architecture meeting?
    • Do we need somebody who feels responsible for higher-level architecture patterns?
  4. vsupalov commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @vsupalov
    Contributor

    @soenkeliebau @lfrancke unclear how to proceed here, some input would be great. Do we leave things as they are here, or do we pursue one of the investigation threads?

    This ticket can be closed in favour of these other investigation threads.

  5. nightkr commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @nightkr
    Contributor

    That the commons-operator is reconciling doesn't really say much, that'll happen whenever the STS is modified externally too. If you want to check whether it has triggered a restart then you'll want to check the STS YAMLs for whether the restarter annotations change.

    I'd also argue that the restart controller isn't the cause of the problem here, just a symptom. The restart controller will trigger when the app's config changes. Check for why that happens if you want to avoid this.

  6. nightkr commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @nightkr
    Contributor

    (Case in point, if the restart controller is at fault then this will happen for all product operators, not just Superset...)

  7. lfrancke commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @lfrancke
    Member

    Thanks Teo.

    The restart controller of the commons operator watches this labeled stateful set and adds the UIDs and resource versions of the referenced config maps and secrets as annotations to the pod template. This triggers a restart of the stateful set right after its first creation.

    I'm a bit confused now, though. This sounds like the answer that you were looking for, no?
    I must be missing something still. I thought the restart happens because the restart controller changes the configmaps which in turn triggers a restart of the STS?

  8. nightkr commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @nightkr
    Contributor

    The restart controller just watches the configmaps for changes, and triggers STS restarts based on that. The restart controller is just a messenger for the actual issue (that the CM changed). It never modifies the CMs itself.

  9. lfrancke commented on Oct 25, 2022

    @lfrancke
    Member

    Understood, thank you.
    So, the described behavior has to come from somewhere else then.

    @siegfriedweber @fhennig @vsupalov - sorry, back to you for now?

  10. siegfriedweber commented on Oct 26, 2022

    @siegfriedweber
    MemberAuthor

    If you want to check whether it has triggered a restart then you'll want to check the STS YAMLs for whether the restarter annotations change.

    The restarter annotations are initially added to the STS YAMLs by the restart controller. This triggers the restart.

    The restart controller will trigger when the app's config changes.

    The restart controller also triggers when a new StatefulSet with the annotation restarter.stackable.tech/enabled=true was created.

    (Case in point, if the restart controller is at fault then this will happen for all product operators, not just Superset...)

    It happens for all StatefulSets which are annotated with restarter.stackable.tech/enabled=true. That is, it also happens for the Airflow operator. The other operators do not use this annotation yet.

    I think that I accurately described the issue in my first comment:

    Actually this is how the restart controller is supposed to work. The Superset operator creates a stateful set labeled with restarter.stackable.tech/enabled=true. The restart controller of the commons operator watches this labeled stateful set and adds the UIDs and resource versions of the referenced config maps and secrets as annotations to the pod template. This triggers a restart of the stateful set right after its first creation. The commons operator watches these config maps and secrets and updates the annotations whenever these resources change which in turn triggers a restart. This ensures that Superset always runs with the latest configuration.

    Please tell me if I am wrong.

  11. soenkeliebau commented on Oct 26, 2022

    @soenkeliebau
    Member

    @siegfriedweber and @teozkr will have a chat about this

  12. nightkr commented on Oct 27, 2022

    @nightkr
    Contributor

    Hm, the label "should" still be added quickly enough that we the pods shouldn't have been scheduled yet, but maybe my memory fails me on how much of a window we have, will have to do some testing tomorrow... If that is indeed the sad case then a fail-open (since we'd still need the controller as well, the worst that could happen would be falling back to the current extra restart) mutating webhook probably makes sense at some point, and should be completely transparent to the operators.

    The downside is that doing a first webhook means doing a bunch of new scaffolding from scratch (certificates, kube API registration, etc)...

  13. nightkr commented on Oct 27, 2022

    @nightkr
    Contributor

    Ok, having tried it out now it does look like the first replica is restarted while all other replicas are created late enough that they are up to date. Avoiding that glitch will probably require us to do the webhook...

  14. nightkr commented on Oct 28, 2022

    @nightkr
    Contributor

    I have validated that a mutating webhook is able to avoid the initial restart for a simple STS... 0cbf72c

    Moving this ticket to commons since this is a bug in the restarter, not in superset-op specifically.

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  16. moved this to Selected for Development in Stackable End-to-End Coordinationon Nov 17, 2025
  17. lfrancke commented on Nov 17, 2025

    @lfrancke
    Member

    This is an old ticket and while it is very well written and detailed I'd like to see a refinement/plan before we start implementing anything.

    The plan should basically be a summary of past and current discussions and it should explain what we plan on doing now and how.

  18. sbernauer commented on Nov 17, 2025

    @sbernauer
    Member

    Meta: Add a mutating webhook that adds restarter annotations for ConfigMaps + Secret instantly before the first Pod is created. This way the first Pod doesn't need to be updated immediately after it's creation.
    We already have a working spike by @nightkr

    Steps:

    1. Extend stackable-webhook with supports for mutating webhooks (in addition to the current conversion webhooks)
    2. Take @nightkr spike branch and port it to the new stackable-webhook crate
      a. The whole TLS server, cert creation and rotation is already solved by stackable-webhook, so we don't need to think about that
      b. Things in kube-rs has changed since, needs some adopting
      c. Use the types from https://docs.rs/kube/latest/kube/core/admission/index.html, so we have better typing and ergonomics in Rust code -> Basically the same as we have for CRD versioning with https://docs.rs/kube/latest/kube/core/conversion/index.html.

    Small side note: Technically this only works in case the StatefulSet is created after the mounted Secrets and ConfigMaps, but after quickly checking trino-operator I think in practice this shouldn't be a problem.

    I now deeply understand all parts and already have a working prototype for all of this. Happy to answer detail questions :)

  19. moved this from Selected for Development to In Progress in Stackable End-to-End Coordinationon Nov 19, 2025
  20. lfrancke commented on Nov 19, 2025

    @lfrancke
    Member

    Thank you!

  21. moved this from In Progress to Done in Stackable End-to-End Coordinationon Jan 14, 2026
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