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@rickardp

Would it make sense for this library to support platforms other than cuda on x64 Linux? I am specifically looking for Apple silicon support. Currently not even cpuonly works since it assumes SSE2 support (Even without Neon. Support).

i would guess that the first step would be a full cross platform compile (arm64), then ideally support for Metal Performance Shaders as an alternative to CUDA (assuming it is at all feasible).

I could probably contribute some towards support if there is interest for bitsandbytes to be multi platform. I have some experience setting up cross platform Python libraries.

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  1. TheStoneSpain commented on Apr 2, 2023

    @TheStoneSpain

    Hi there, I will contribute too, in order to get it to work on Metal Apple M1

    this is my trace:

    ===================================BUG REPORT===================================
    Welcome to bitsandbytes. For bug reports, please submit your error trace to: https://github.com/TimDettmers/bitsandbytes/issues
    ================================================================================
    CUDA SETUP: Required library version not found: libsbitsandbytes_cpu.so. Maybe you need to compile it from source?
    CUDA SETUP: Defaulting to libbitsandbytes_cpu.so...
    dlopen([/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so), 0x0006): tried: '[/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so)' (not a mach-o file), '[/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so)' (no such file), '[/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so)' (not a mach-o file)
    CUDA SETUP: Required library version not found: libsbitsandbytes_cpu.so. Maybe you need to compile it from source?
    CUDA SETUP: Defaulting to libbitsandbytes_cpu.so...
    dlopen([/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so), 0x0006): tried: '[/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so)' (not a mach-o file), '[/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so)' (no such file), '[/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/libbitsandbytes_cpu.so)' (not a mach-o file)
    [/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/cextension.py:31](https://file+.vscode-resource.vscode-cdn.net/Users/raziel/miniconda3/envs/nlp/lib/python3.9/site-packages/bitsandbytes/cextension.py:31): UserWarning: The installed version of bitsandbytes was compiled without GPU support. 8-bit optimizers and GPU quantization are unavailable.
      warn("The installed version of bitsandbytes was compiled without GPU support. "
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    # What version of Python do you have?
    import sys
    import platform
    import torch
    
    has_gpu = torch.cuda.is_available()
    has_mps = getattr(torch,'has_mps',False)
    print('has_mps', has_mps)
    device = "mps" if getattr(torch,'has_mps',False) \
        else "gpu" if torch.cuda.is_available() else "cpu"
    
    print(f"Python Platform: {platform.platform()}")
    print(f"PyTorch Version: {torch.__version__}")
    print()
    print(f"Python {sys.version}")
    print("GPU is", "available" if has_gpu else "NOT AVAILABLE")
    print("MPS (Apple Metal) is", "AVAILABLE" if has_mps else "NOT AVAILABLE")
    print(f"Target device is {device}")
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    has_mps True
    Python Platform: macOS-13.3-arm64-arm-64bit
    PyTorch Version: 2.0.0
    
    Python 3.9.16 | packaged by conda-forge | (main, Feb  1 2023, 21:38:11) 
    [Clang 14.0.6 ]
    GPU is NOT AVAILABLE
    MPS (Apple Metal) is AVAILABLE
    Target device is mps
    
    
  2. rickardp commented on Apr 3, 2023

    @rickardp
    ContributorAuthor

    Nice to hear! It would be good to hear from the maintainers that they are at all interested in making this package cross-platform. It is very much CUDA focused at the moment.

    Getting libbitsandbytes_cpu.so to compile for macOS arm64 was not at all difficult, just an exercise in moving around some #ifdefs, but CPU support would obviously need to add Neon (SIMD) to make any sense IMHO. Then, of course the MPS support would be needed at one point (though I expect it's quite a lot more work).

    I've just started looking at the unit tests and the Python libraries.

    The C++ code is quite nicely structured, but the Python code would need some refactoring since most of the calls assume CUDA (x.cuda() instead of x.to(device), etc). Also, since the CPU version does not cover 100% of the feature set, testing is going to be quite some work as there is no real baseline. I suppose one question is if it would make sense to make the CPU cover 100% of the API calls, even if inefficient, just to provide a baseline that the GPU implementations could compare against?

    If pursuing this, I propose implementing cross-platform CPU support first, then tackling MPS. MPS is of course what makes it useful.

    (I have the exact same setup BTW, 2021 MBP)

    Edit: Specifically, here's how I imagine the unit tests would have to work
    https://github.com/TimDettmers/bitsandbytes/pull/257/files#diff-659bad232c71219167252c1a5ccbc427b6f54925b78741df18613c3c49aaa4c1R153

    image

    So at least one CPU test pass on my M1 Mac :)

  3. janrinze commented on Apr 5, 2023

    @janrinze

    please have a look at Building on Jetson AGX Xavier Development Kit fails #221
    It addresses the same AArch64 issue but on CUDA supported platforms like NVidia Jetson.

  4. UserHIJ commented on Jun 24, 2023

    @UserHIJ

    Wow .. not to be inflammatory , but are we saying that there's no immediate solution for this if you have any macbook in the last like .. 5 years? Yuck.

  5. janrinze commented on Jun 25, 2023

    @janrinze

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M1 introduced less than 3 years ago.
    Things take time in the world of open-source. Specially when using hardware such as Apple.

  6. KotlinFactory commented on Aug 6, 2023

    @KotlinFactory

    when will this be done?

  7. benjaminhuo commented on Aug 21, 2023

    @benjaminhuo

    Would it make sense for this library to support platforms other than cuda on x64 Linux? I am specifically looking for Apple silicon support. Currently not even cpuonly works since it assumes SSE2 support (Even without Neon. Support).

    i would guess that the first step would be a full cross platform compile (arm64), then ideally support for Metal Performance Shaders as an alternative to CUDA (assuming it is at all feasible).

    I could probably contribute some towards support if there is interest for bitsandbytes to be multi platform. I have some experience setting up cross platform Python libraries.

    Looking forward to the support for this too, got the below errors when I tried to fine-tune llama2 7B with load_in_8bit=True enabled on my Macbook M2, PyTorch‘s support to MPS is getting better and I hope this project could support this as well:

      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/autograd/function.py", line 506, in apply
        return super().apply(*args, **kwargs)  # type: ignore[misc]
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bitsandbytes/autograd/_functions.py", line 293, in forward
        using_igemmlt = supports_igemmlt(A.device) and not state.force_no_igemmlt
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bitsandbytes/autograd/_functions.py", line 226, in supports_igemmlt
        if torch.cuda.get_device_capability(device=device) < (7, 5):
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/cuda/__init__.py", line 381, in get_device_capability
        prop = get_device_properties(device)
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/cuda/__init__.py", line 395, in get_device_properties
        _lazy_init()  # will define _get_device_properties
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/cuda/__init__.py", line 239, in _lazy_init
        raise AssertionError("Torch not compiled with CUDA enabled")
    AssertionError: Torch not compiled with CUDA enabled
  8. AlexandreCassagne commented on Sep 8, 2023

    @AlexandreCassagne

    @benjaminhuo Getting the same issue as you.

  9. id4thomas commented on Sep 17, 2023

    @id4thomas
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/autograd/function.py", line 506, in apply
        return super().apply(*args, **kwargs)  # type: ignore[misc]
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bitsandbytes/autograd/_functions.py", line 293, in forward
        using_igemmlt = supports_igemmlt(A.device) and not state.force_no_igemmlt
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bitsandbytes/autograd/_functions.py", line 226, in supports_igemmlt
        if torch.cuda.get_device_capability(device=device) < (7, 5):
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/cuda/__init__.py", line 381, in get_device_capability
        prop = get_device_properties(device)
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/cuda/__init__.py", line 395, in get_device_properties
        _lazy_init()  # will define _get_device_properties
      File "/Users/ben/opt/miniconda3/envs/finetune/lib/python3.10/site-packages/torch/cuda/__init__.py", line 239, in _lazy_init
        raise AssertionError("Torch not compiled with CUDA enabled")
    AssertionError: Torch not compiled with CUDA enabled

    https://github.com/TimDettmers/bitsandbytes/blob/18e827d666fa2b70a12d539ccedc17aa51b2c97c/bitsandbytes/autograd/_functions.py#L227

    This seems to be due to calling torch.cuda even if the device type isn't cuda.
    One way to patch these unchecked torch.cuda calls is adding device checks like

    if device.type != 'cuda':
        return False

    mps returns "mps" as device.type

  10. pechaut78 commented on Nov 27, 2023

    @pechaut78

    same issue here, MPS seems to be the problem

  11. ProjectProgramAMark commented on Dec 2, 2023

    @ProjectProgramAMark

    getting same issue with apple silicon. would love to see some support for it soon!

  12. ivan-digital commented on Dec 24, 2023

    @ivan-digital

    Same issue. Would be nice to have support for MPS.

  13. ageorgios commented on Dec 26, 2023

    @ageorgios

    Same here, please have support for MPS
    https://github.com/ml-explore/mlx

  14. 592319702 commented on Jan 23, 2024

    @592319702

    (torch-gpu) I542464@DY4GPKX1J0 test % python3 fine_tune_llama_2_in_google_colab.py /Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/bitsandbytes/cextension.py:34: UserWarning: The installed version of bitsandbytes was compiled without GPU support. 8-bit optimizers, 8-bit multiplication, and GPU quantization are unavailable. warn("The installed version of bitsandbytes was compiled without GPU support. " 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'cadam32bit_grad_fp32' Loading checkpoint shards: 100%|████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████| 2/2 [00:32<00:00, 16.06s/it] /Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/peft/utils/other.py:102: FutureWarning: prepare_model_for_int8_training is deprecated and will be removed in a future version. Use prepare_model_for_kbit_training instead. warnings.warn( /Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/trl/trainer/sft_trainer.py:159: UserWarning: You didn't pass a max_seq_lengthargument to the SFTTrainer, this will default to 1024 warnings.warn( 0%| | 0/250 [00:00<?, ?it/s]You're using a LlamaTokenizerFast tokenizer. Please note that with a fast tokenizer, using thecallmethod is faster than using a method to encode the text followed by a call to thepadmethod to get a padded encoding.use_cache=Trueis incompatible with gradient checkpointing. Settinguse_cache=False... /Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/utils/checkpoint.py:429: UserWarning: torch.utils.checkpoint: please pass in use_reentrant=True or use_reentrant=False explicitly. The default value of use_reentrant will be updated to be False in the future. To maintain current behavior, pass use_reentrant=True. It is recommended that you use use_reentrant=False. Refer to docs for more details on the differences between the two variants. warnings.warn( FP4 quantization state not initialized. Please call .cuda() or .to(device) on the LinearFP4 layer first. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/I542464/test/fine_tune_llama_2_in_google_colab.py", line 229, in <module> trainer.train() File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/trainer.py", line 1539, in train return inner_training_loop( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/trainer.py", line 1809, in _inner_training_loop tr_loss_step = self.training_step(model, inputs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/trainer.py", line 2654, in training_step loss = self.compute_loss(model, inputs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/trainer.py", line 2679, in compute_loss outputs = model(**inputs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1518, in _wrapped_call_impl return self._call_impl(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1527, in _call_impl return forward_call(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/peft/peft_model.py", line 922, in forward return self.base_model( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1518, in _wrapped_call_impl return self._call_impl(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1527, in _call_impl return forward_call(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/accelerate/hooks.py", line 165, in new_forward output = old_forward(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/models/llama/modeling_llama.py", line 806, in forward outputs = self.model( ^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1518, in _wrapped_call_impl return self._call_impl(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1527, in _call_impl return forward_call(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/accelerate/hooks.py", line 165, in new_forward output = old_forward(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/models/llama/modeling_llama.py", line 685, in forward layer_outputs = torch.utils.checkpoint.checkpoint( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/_compile.py", line 24, in inner return torch._dynamo.disable(fn, recursive)(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/_dynamo/eval_frame.py", line 328, in _fn return fn(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/_dynamo/external_utils.py", line 17, in inner return fn(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/utils/checkpoint.py", line 451, in checkpoint return CheckpointFunction.apply(function, preserve, *args) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/autograd/function.py", line 539, in apply return super().apply(*args, **kwargs) # type: ignore[misc] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/utils/checkpoint.py", line 230, in forward outputs = run_function(*args) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/models/llama/modeling_llama.py", line 681, in custom_forward return module(*inputs, output_attentions, None) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1518, in _wrapped_call_impl return self._call_impl(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1527, in _call_impl return forward_call(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/accelerate/hooks.py", line 165, in new_forward output = old_forward(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/models/llama/modeling_llama.py", line 408, in forward hidden_states, self_attn_weights, present_key_value = self.self_attn( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1518, in _wrapped_call_impl return self._call_impl(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1527, in _call_impl return forward_call(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/accelerate/hooks.py", line 165, in new_forward output = old_forward(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/transformers/models/llama/modeling_llama.py", line 305, in forward query_states = self.q_proj(hidden_states) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1518, in _wrapped_call_impl return self._call_impl(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/torch/nn/modules/module.py", line 1527, in _call_impl return forward_call(*args, **kwargs) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/peft/tuners/lora.py", line 1123, in forward result = super().forward(x) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/bitsandbytes/nn/modules.py", line 221, in forward out = bnb.matmul_4bit(x, self.weight.t(), bias=bias, quant_state=self.weight.quant_state) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ File "/Users/I542464/miniconda3/envs/torch-gpu/lib/python3.11/site-packages/bitsandbytes/autograd/_functions.py", line 567, in matmul_4bit assert quant_state is not None ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AssertionError 0%| | 0/250 [00:01<?, ?it/s]

  15. mbtre commented on Feb 15, 2024

    @mbtre

    +1 MPS support would be absolutely great!

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  17. rickardp commented on Apr 8, 2025

    @rickardp
    ContributorAuthor

    Prototype contribution #947 from Jan 2, 2024 was closed despite all that hard work... because it was not needed? 🤔

    Most of this was actually merged in separate PRs to make it more manageable. This PR was mainly about making the library portable at all.

    Before contributing, I think the architectural direction for this library has to be established. I was at the time arguing that we need a 100% test covered CPU implementation to start from so MPS support can be added gradually. If my understanding is correct, the latest architectural direction is to unify backend initialization with PyTorch. Once we get to a level where kernels can be added one by one and there are unit tests to verify correctness , I think a lot more can be done by the community. Right now IMHO there is quite a dependence on the core maintainers

  18. matthewdouglas commented on Apr 8, 2025

    @matthewdouglas
    Member

    Hi folks,

    We're not quite there yet, but after merging #1544 we've started to pave the path forward. I want to make it clear that we haven't abandoned Apple silicon support, but instead have had competing priorities to shift through. We're still working toward this though.

    In fact, we've now got a CI test suite that is stable and can be reliably deterministic on our main branch for the CUDA implementation. The CUDA implementation is always going to be the "gold standard" reference implementation, but this is a step forward toward being able to validate implementations for new hardware.

    We have some new PyTorch native fallback implementations of some custom operators which can be used for reference/fallback on CPU as well as other devices. To @rickardp's point, this will allow incremental support for more optimal implementations on additional platforms, as well as serve as a secondary reference to evaluate against.

    I have a branch which is a WIP that I have not pushed yet, but it has an implementation of the NF4 quantization/dequantization ops which can run on CPU and even on MPS with a little bit of work. I've also acquired an M4 MacBook Pro for future development/validation. Soon we should be able to build out enough plumbing to better enable community contributions for kernel implementations.

  19. foggyghost0 commented on Jun 11, 2025

    @foggyghost0

    Have just spent 6 hours trying to implement a custom quant solution on mac, still hope to see bits and bytes support!

  20. feynon commented on Aug 5, 2025

    @feynon

    Any updates on this issue?

  21. bhupesh-sf commented on Sep 1, 2025

    @bhupesh-sf

    any update???

  22. luvwinnie commented on Sep 4, 2025

    @luvwinnie

    any update???

  23. davidxia commented on Sep 4, 2025

    @davidxia

    The fork https://github.com/yhsung/bitsandbytes seems to support Apple silicon since yhsung#1. People can try forking. Not sure why the PR wasn't made to upstream here too.

  24. reneleonhardt commented on Sep 4, 2025

    @reneleonhardt

    #1699 had been created, but even it would've not been closed you can't know if it would've been reviewed and merged.

    Besides that, CI has been disabled in that repo and not enabled in this repo, so everyone would have to try it themselves locally to see if any old or new tests would fail.

  25. JINO-ROHIT commented on Nov 27, 2025

    @JINO-ROHIT

    hi everyone, just checking if we have updates on this?
    thanks

  26. linked a pull request that will close this issueEnable publishing of macOS wheel #1818on Dec 2, 2025
  27. ZerocoolZa commented on Dec 4, 2025

    @ZerocoolZa

    just convert bit and bytes to c. and dou it your self

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