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Breeze encoder chunked vram - #431

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Make clone reference VRAM (near-)constant instead of O(reference length)

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  1. Chunk the speech-encoder conv stack (speech_encoder.cpp): fixed 5 s
    chunks + 9600-sample overlap covering the exact 5240-sample receptive
    field; chunk boundaries align the 960x transformer stride, so stitched
    outputs are bit-identical to a single-pass encode. The transformer still
    runs once at frame scale.
  2. Bucket the encoder transformer graph capacity (125-frame buckets,
    replicate-padded): one graph per bucket, no rebuild churn in
    long-lived sessions.
  3. Fused round-to-bf16 unary op for Vulkan (round_bf16.comp): single
    kernel replacing the f32→bf16→f32 cast round trip, numerically identical.

Results (2080 Ti, q8_0, clone, peak VRAM)

Reference Before After Encode time
6 s 4.3 GB 4.37 GB 261 → 248 ms
60 s 6.9 GB 4.91 GB 3561 → 2307 ms

VRAM slope vs reference length: ~45 MiB/s → ~10 MiB/s.

Testing

  • Chunked vs single-pass reference codes: bit-identical on Vulkan/CPU; on HIP/CUDA within the pre-existing length-sensitivity noise of the old
    implementation.
  • Long-lived server, mixed-length request sequences: no VRAM high-water
    retention.
  • No regressions observed on Vulkan, CUDA (sm_75), HIP (gfx1151), CPU.

AI usage: Kimi K3

If you have time, could you please take a look and see if this improvement direction is feasible? Thanks~

The encoder graph was built at the exact reference-audio length, so conv
activations grew linearly (~45 MiB/s of reference) and every new length
triggered a full graph rebuild; a 60 s reference cost ~2.5 GB extra over
a 6 s one.

Split the encoder into two graphs. The conv stack now runs on fixed 5 s
chunks (120000 samples) preceded by a 9600-sample left overlap that covers
the stack's exact 5240-sample receptive field; chunk lengths are multiples
of the 960x transformer stride, so no per-stage right padding occurs and the
discarded overlap frames absorb the zero left pads that represent audio
start in the first chunk. Stitched outputs are bit-identical to a
single-pass encode of the same input (verified over 68 frames x 16
codebooks). The transformer, downsample, and projections run once over the
full frame sequence at frame scale, where even minute-long references cost
only tens of MiB.

Measured on a 2080 Ti (Vulkan, native q8_0 GGUF, peak minus idle baseline):
the VRAM slope over reference length drops from ~45 MiB/s to ~11 MiB/s
(remaining slope is the frame-scale transformer graph and the longer AR
prefill from reference codes), and a 60 s reference peaks ~1.4 GB lower.
Encode time for 60 s improves from 3561 ms to 2197 ms.
The transformer graph was rebuilt at the exact frame count for every
distinct reference length. Round the capacity up to 125-frame (5 s) buckets
so lengths within a bucket share one graph. Unused bucket frames are
replicate-padded to match the downsample conv's Replicate right pad; causal
attention keeps padding frames invisible to real frames. Verified
bit-identical reference codes vs exact-length graphs at 6 s and 15 s; odd
lengths show sub-1% last-frame diffs from flash-attention tiling, the same
accepted noise class as the pre-existing length sensitivity. Single-run peak
VRAM is unchanged.
Vulkan previously paid a cast round trip (f32->bf16->f32, two kernels, a
bf16 intermediate tensor) at every activation-rounding point of the breeze
decoder. Add a round_bf16 compute shader (f32/f16/bf16 in, always f32 out,
round-to-nearest-even via the same fp32_to_bf16 bit trick the cpy shaders
use), register pipelines indexed by source type, handle the widened f32 dst
in the unary pipeline selection and op-support checks, and enable
fused_round for Vulkan in the breeze activation-cast policy.

Verified bit-identical breeze reference codes vs the cast round trip at 6 s
and 15 s references. Peak VRAM on a 2080 Ti drops ~250 MiB at a 60 s
reference (5491 -> 5239 MiB); no measurable change at 6 s.
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@IIIIIllllIIIIIlllll On my machine, this PR causes regressions: (1) the CUDA mispronunciation issue seems to be back, and (2) Vulkan produces noise. Can you check?

build/debug/bin/audiocpp_cli \
  --task clon \
  --family breeze_tts \
  --model Breeze-TTS-2-GGUF/breeze-tts-2-q8_0.gguf \
  --backend vulkan \
  --threads 8 \
  --text "Welcome to the audio.cpp plus BreezeTTS 2 Vulkan validation. The clone reference crosses multiple encoder chunks." \
  --voice-ref assets/resources/b.wav \
  --reference-text "Some call me nature. Others call me Mother Nature. I have been here for over four and a half billion years." \
  --request-option instruction="Speak clearly and naturally." \
  --request-option seed=42 \
  --out  dev-vulkan-clone.wav \
  --log \
  --log-file  dev-vulkan-clone.log

dev-cuda-clone-60sref.wav
pr-cuda-clone-60sref.wav

dev-vulkan-clone.wav
pr-vulkan-clone.wav

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@IIIIIllllIIIIIlllll On my machine, this PR causes regressions: (1) the CUDA mispronunciation issue seems to be back, and (2) Vulkan produces noise. Can you check?

build/debug/bin/audiocpp_cli \
  --task clon \
  --family breeze_tts \
  --model Breeze-TTS-2-GGUF/breeze-tts-2-q8_0.gguf \
  --backend vulkan \
  --threads 8 \
  --text "Welcome to the audio.cpp plus BreezeTTS 2 Vulkan validation. The clone reference crosses multiple encoder chunks." \
  --voice-ref assets/resources/b.wav \
  --reference-text "Some call me nature. Others call me Mother Nature. I have been here for over four and a half billion years." \
  --request-option instruction="Speak clearly and naturally." \
  --request-option seed=42 \
  --out  dev-vulkan-clone.wav \
  --log \
  --log-file  dev-vulkan-clone.log

dev-cuda-clone-60sref.wav pr-cuda-clone-60sref.wav

dev-vulkan-clone.wav pr-vulkan-clone.wav

No problem.

The breeze activation-rounding policy admits row-strided views into
ggml_round_bf16 (ggml_is_contiguous_rows gate in qwen_decoder). The
Vulkan port dispatched every input to the flat shader, which indexes the
source as a contiguous array, so row-strided views read garbage and
clone output degenerated into noise. Route non-contiguous inputs to a
new round_bf16_strided shader built on generic_unary_head (same pattern
as sigmoid_strided), keeping the flat fast path for contiguous inputs.
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@0xShug0 Both issues investigated with your exact commands. Findings:

(2) Vulkan noise — real bug, root-caused and fixed in 3215194. qwen_decoder admits row-strided views into ggml_round_bf16 (the ggml_is_contiguous_rows gate from #393; the CUDA/HIP fused kernels handle row strides). My Vulkan port only had the flat shader, which indexes the source as a contiguous array — row-strided views read garbage and the AR loop degenerated into noise. The fix adds a round_bf16_strided shader on the existing generic_unary_head infrastructure (same pattern as sigmoid_strided) and routes non-contiguous inputs to it; contiguous inputs keep the flat fast path. With your exact Vulkan command the fixed build now produces the full correct sentence (verified by ASR transcription).

(1) CUDA mispronunciation — not a regression from this PR, as far as I can tell. On my 2080 Ti with your exact command (q8_0 native load, 60 s ref, seed 42) the coin flip lands the other way: the dev build says "audio CPE" and the PR build says "audio.cpp" correctly. Encoder reference codes at 60 s differ dev-vs-PR in 5.0% of code elements — below the old implementation's own length sensitivity (7.1% for the same audio encoded at different reference lengths, no PR code involved). The bf16 activation rounding makes the AR trajectory chaotic, so any last-ulp encoder difference can flip marginal tokens like "audio.cpp" in either direction per machine. Happy to dig further if you see a systematic (multi-seed) degradation rather than single-sample flips.

Could you re-test Vulkan on 3215194?

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Follow-up with one more data point: I ran the official PyTorch Breeze-TTS-2 implementation (eager, same inputs, seed 42) as ground truth on both scenarios:

Scenario (the "audio.cpp" token) Official PyTorch dev (820cddc) this PR
CUDA, 60 s ref, my 2080 Ti "audio CPE" "audio CPE" "audio.cpp"
Vulkan scene (b.wav ref), my 2080 Ti "audio dot CPP" "audio dot cpp" "audio dot cpe" (after the strided fix)

So on the CUDA scenario the official reference itself produces the "mispronounced" variant, and each build flips this marginal token depending on machine and last-ulp noise. There is no systematic direction to the divergence — it is the known bf16-trajectory sensitivity, not a regression introduced here.

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@IIIIIllllIIIIIlllll Looks good to me and ready to merge. I will just consider pronunciation instability as the model issue.

Case WAV dur RTF Peak VRAM ASR result
dev CUDA 8.24s 0.356 6090 MiB valid speech, bad audio.cpp
PR CUDA 10.64s 0.325 5677 MiB valid speech, says audio CPE
dev Vulkan 9.76s 0.614 5688 MiB valid speech, says audio dot cpp
PR Vulkan 10.08s 0.457 5113 MiB valid speech, says audio dot cpp

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